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Matthew 3:7-10
But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he said to them: "You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?
Produce fruit in keeping with repentance.
And do not think you can say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father.' I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham.
The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.
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There was only one civilian casualty during the three-day Battle of Gettysburg
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| 10 February, 2006 |
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posted by Rockel @ 2:24 PM  |
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I seatbelts were snug and I enjoyed the ride. An interesting quandry that you have presented. I like this idea of "nothing" being "something" that is happeneing. But riddle me this, if you were to continue through this web, which may or may not implode depending on how it is navigated, wont you arrive at what is nothing, or the human limitations put on nothing, since as being limited humans we cant truly wrap our minds around the true meaning of nothing just as easily as we cant wrap our minds around the true meaning of perfection?
I may be going off track here but i had to sound smart and say something hahaha..
cheers my buddy. Holler.
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Let me begin by answering this:
"I submit that if the preceding is true, does it not also make sense that where you are in life is also a result of nothing (which may or may not exist)?"
By "this", I mean the parenthetical.
The idea that nothing may or may not exist is a wholly different endeavor that has no end. What we real philosophers like to call "Mental Masturbation."
As to:
"And if that is the case, would not this nothing...be entitled to just as much..."reason" for your situation than the many things which never even happened?"
Yes, it would. But only as much reason as was prescribed to the "something" that happened instead. It is a zero-sum game. Just as much "reason" is placed on what happened as what did NOT happen. I believe this illustration will help:
Bob and Ted are standing in the kitchen. Someone has left behind a glass of milk.
"That glass is half-full," says Bob matter-of-factly.
"That glass is half-empty!" exclaimed Ted emphatically.
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jersey - cheers and holler back. as to the postulation on perfection, I have done some thinking on that and will try to locate something I wrote on the subject recently.
cobra - as to your masturbatory endevours, I am aware that real philosphers such as yourself enjoy them. as to your extremely cliche and utterly dissapointing "Bob and Ted" illustration (which, correct me if I'm wrong, had no pictures at all), I, the fake philosopher, say the following:
Your illustration only takes into account the something (in this case milk), that is or is not present. It does not address the nothing (in this case nothing) that is present.
ps - mad love, homeboy... lick your ear and give me a call.
pps - your mom was over at my place last night. she says hi.
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So, you are purporting, that "nothing" happens for a reason while the "something" that happens, and the subsequent "something" that does not happen, happen for no reason while the indefinite circumstance and pervasive lacking element is the only particular "something" that happens FOR a reason?
P.S. I'm drunk.
P.S. I just ate your children.
P.S. Quit acting like you know how to use the P.S.
P.S. Hitle wrote this letter.
Zeig Heil,
To Myself
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No, my purport is that if nothing happens (and it seems that it very likely could) it seems only logical that it receive at least the same level of "reason" for why you are where/who/what you are as do the "things" that never even happen.
p.s. I love your book.
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Now you are prescribing behavior to "nothing" by stating that it can or cannot happen, contrary to saying that it is always happening, which, for your argument to work, it must be a pervasive element within and about all things.
Regardless of the nature of "nothing's" behavior, I believe, if I may be so illustrious, that you are merely dancing around religion.
Whether "nothing" is or is not, can behave or not, or can even choose whether to behave or not is picayune. This type of pervasive, indefinite, yet highly important element which has a significant impact on our lives (in your argument, the most significant) can be referred to as Karma, Dharma, The Holy Spirit, Mahavira, The Circle of Life, Aether.
"I submit that if the preceding is true, does it not also make sense that where you are in life is also a result of nothing (which may or may not exist)? And if that is the case, would not this nothing (which, if it exists, most certainly "happens") be entitled to just as much (if not more) "reason" for your situation than the many things which never even happened?"
Instead of "nothing" in this paragraph, insert any of the aforementioned referents. Hell, insert "fishsticks," "lobotomies," or "toejam." They all work.
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Your first point:
"Now you are prescribing behavior to 'nothing'...within and about all things."
You either misread or purposefully misrepresented my previous comment (as well as the entire post) to come up with such a response. I'll assume the former since I know you to be smart enough not to attempt the latter.
Your second:
"Regardless of the nature of 'nothing's' behavior, I believe, if I may be so illustrious, that you are merely dancing around religion.... [continued to end of comment]"
Your belief is wrong, and since you are the one bringing up religion (and because I have seen you doing what some would call "dancing"), I believe, if I may be so rambunctious, it is you who is floundering about religion.
P.S.
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What have I misread?
I believe that if what you state -- "Nothing happens for a reason" -- and that "nothing" isn't the something that has happened or the something that will happen or the something that has/will NOT happen, then "nothing" must be happening perpetually, otherwise, nothing is happening at all. But this cannot be so, for something must be taking place at all times in all places. Your "nothing" must exist in tandem with whatever is happening or is not happening and therefore cannot happen or not, it must be happening.
As far as religion is concerned, my dancing is way pimp and the only floundering I do is on the grill. Your rambunctiousness is a sign of your weakness el Rock-EL and I shall exploit that weakness now:
Religion is "A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion." And as you said: "My philosophy... my process... my view... of life, the universe, and everything" is that "Nothing happens for a reason," then you are describing to us your particular principles, causes, and activities to which you devote yourself, indeed, your life. Taking from what I know of your actual religion and not the five words you typed across a Weblog entry, I would say that you are merely attempting to redefine your own religion in such a manner as to seperate yourself from those aspects of that religion which you find disagreeable per se.
P.S. I'm totally awesome!
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ON THE NICKEL
by Tom Waits
("I'd like to do a new song here. This is eh, it's about downtown Los Angeles on 5th Street. And eh all the winos affectionately refer to it as The Nickel. So this is kind of a hobo's lullaby.")
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and what becomes of all the little boys,
who never comb their hair,
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on the nickel over there.
so you better bring a bucket,
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and if you don't get my letter,
then you'll know that i'm in jail,
and what becomes of all the little boys,
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the sandman takes you where,
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I seatbelts were snug and I enjoyed the ride. An interesting quandry that you have presented. I like this idea of "nothing" being "something" that is happeneing. But riddle me this, if you were to continue through this web, which may or may not implode depending on how it is navigated, wont you arrive at what is nothing, or the human limitations put on nothing, since as being limited humans we cant truly wrap our minds around the true meaning of nothing just as easily as we cant wrap our minds around the true meaning of perfection?
I may be going off track here but i had to sound smart and say something hahaha..
cheers my buddy. Holler.